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    • They made the CGI too smooth, their skin looks soft even though they are Orcs and Uruks, they should have rough gritty skin
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    • Do y'all have any idea how fucking difficult it would be to just use a normal dude to create a 8 ft 1 ton goblin king? Cgi gives them freedom to include fantasy characters that look almost nothing like humans.
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    • Problem is, they're all people sized. Fantasy worlds are filled with monsters big and small that makeup just cant quite recreate
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    • CGI is cool when used artistically. When you rely on it too much it takes away from the actors themselves
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    • I'm actually a fan of both. If done well you shouldn't even think about the medium, just the story and the character.
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    • Why do people dislike CGI so much? I think it’s pretty cool
      Austere 21 jun
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    • Unless the enemy is a dragon
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    • Unless it's Andy Serkis.
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    • Also keep In mind the overly dark is to cut the quality of the CGI. Notice how all the humans are in a bright light, but all the other ones are in a darker lighting to hide the mistakes.
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    • excuse me bolg was a real son of a bitch don't use that stupid "new is bad" argument
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    • I dont think that's the problem lol
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    • I thought borg was fucking awesome. Dude a stud
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    • Here’s my problem with these movies. They didn’t HAVE to overuse the cgi this much. They had no problem displaying different sizes in characters in LOTR using camera tricks and other film techniques. On top of that, they deviated from the book WAY too much considering they had 3 movies to...(part1)
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    • I never got the hate around CGI in movies and stuff. It just makes impossible things possible. Take the Green Lantern movie for example, people got all up in arms about the CGI suit but how else were they supposed to do it? The suit is a construct created by the ring so it just forms instantly
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    • I liked the white orc, I forget his name but honestly the only thing I didn’t really enjoy was the goblin king
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    • Ballsack face
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    • The whole point is to suspend your belief, so tht u can believe it’s real. As CGI improves, it’ll blend wut u think is real into that “belief” and you’ll not even notice. EX. Most city scapes and hills are all cgi, no one complains because they don’t realize it’s cgi. Same will be true of CGI ppl.
      ikonk 21 jun
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    • CGI is a thankless job; if you do it well, no one can tell it’s CGI... if you do it poorly, the world hates you because you used CGI
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    • I feel like it has a noticeable effect on the actors too if they're not talking to a a fuccking greenscreen with a rubber mask
      Bezak 21 jun
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    • Okay but the CGI elves in the battle of five armies were fukin sick
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    • The goblin guy was still a cool villain
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    • I loved both tho
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    • People didnt like the hobbits cgi?... i thought it was amazing damn.
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    • I don’t know, AZOG the defiler was super bad ass.
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    • With the great cgi in the hobbit it wins over real characters disputed how got lord of the rings is too
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    • I don’t know, the troll King was pretty good
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    • I have a working hypothesis at the why today's CGI looks so cartoony and unconvincing. I've noticed it all started when they started making movies tailored to 3D glasses in theaters about a decade ago. I've noticed a 3D movies don't look as convincing as being real as non 3D movies.
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    • I say keep progressing in CGI, look how far it’s come in the last 20 years. CGI will always look better on monsters than hours of makeup every day
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    • they both look pretty good to me
      Sinpai 20 jun
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    • I like both truly
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    • So we just gonna forget about Davy Jones?
      Matt3895 21 jun
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    • I think that more movies should use clone type effects: use real actors with makeup for the frontlines and main interactions, then use CG doubles for the background characters.
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    • I like both. Both ways have an artistic style I can appreciate.
      schhhhit 21 jun
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    • Black Panther is actually entirely CGI, just FYI. Iron Man, too.
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    • Dark Crystal Puppetry gang WYA?
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    • You cant makeup someone to be 20 ft tall. Gotta use CGI sometimes
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    • So, here is what I thought about the Hobbit... The cgi use was cool, but everything looked, too good. Everything was shiny, and the orcs just looked, smooth? In LOTR, so many things were actual models or people or things... They made small models of Minas tirith (1/2)
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    • All this hate on CGI, but the problem is that most of you are like hipsters when it comes to this shit. It was the same with the prequels of Star Wars. CGI, if given to a good artist and a good writer, can make wonderful things.
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    • Dude on bottom left was badass tho
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    • Good CGI is fantastic but makeup and real special effects help ground the actors into the scene far more than acting with a jumpsuit and a bunch of dots. It makes acting easier
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    • .........I thought it was fine.
      Okep 21 jun
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    • Arguable
      yun_fizzy 23 jun
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    • Lotr>hobbit
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    • Idk, I think the Goblin King was pretty good with the whole nutsack face thing
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    • I think lotr was better for sure but I didn't think the Hobbit was terrible. Could they have done a better job? Probably, but I still enjoyed the Hobbit series as a whole.
      Cythera16 21 jun
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    • Make up and practical effects will always be better for depth and realism. CGI is good for over the top crazy shit
      war4567 21 jun
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    • Debatable
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    • I love lord of the rings tbh
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    • Liggy505 21 jun
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    • I liked how Mr nutsack chin looks :/
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    • I actually like the bottom more
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    • Who the fuck approved scrotum beards
      AjaxSoap 22 jun
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    • Good writing helps too
      420q 21 jun
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    • Top one is Peter Jackson with time and passion. Bottom one is executives giving Peter little time to redo the whole thing which was started by Del Toro who flaked at the last second. The whole thing was a shitshow. There are images of Peter looking like a zombie while filming
      Kaliic 21 jun
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    • tbh I disagree, dont disrespect the CHI artists
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    • Why does Jurassic Park (1992) look better than the new Jurassic Park films made over 20 years later
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    • cgi or make up regardless still two of the best movie series and music
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    • Skrunky 21 jun
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    • I actually love cgi. My true enemy is action scene camera cuts. Daredevil gave beautiful examples of how you can film an entire fight in simply one shot. It takes so much more effort and time, but god is it just so beautiful and more satisfying than getting a seizure from flashing action cuts.
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    • I like guy with nutsack chin tho
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    • Yes yes, LotR was better than the Hobbit, everyone knows that, doesn’t stop me from still loving every one of the middle earth movies
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    • Lord of the Rings is always a win!
      iMemeWins 21 jun
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    • Who would play yoda in Star Wars because he’s never been played by an actor. In the older movies he was a puppet and then they changed him to CGI.
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    • But what about Gollum?
      jk10296 21 jun
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    • Super true, I still think CG helps in instances like Jurassic Park where for full body or complex movement shots are CG and closeups are practical effects. Look at rick baker’s work if your interested in makeup, he’s a god.
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    • Fucking, aggreed
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    • *Practical Effects
      zerosober 22 jun
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    • Aight I have respect for peter Jackson and all but I started to realize that every time a blade was about to slice through an enemy they would cut away. Now I know it’s a pg 13 movie and you can’t have all that violence but it felt like watching a sit com and you’re listening for the laugh track con
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    • There was still “real acting” with the bottom few they just add the cgi in post. But yea practical effects look waaay better
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    • Nah they where both great, but that CGI was exceptionally beautiful and makes it seem even more like a true fantasy.
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    • Eeeehhh
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    • My two big beefs with the Hobbit movies are 1. Orcs were generally smaller around 3 feet to man high or bigger depending on their selective or cross breeding. But most orcs were small. Second the idea of a Elf and Dwarf love story. Tolkin put in hours of reading to explain why elves and men would -
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    • I think the planet of the apes trilogy nailed it
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    • Peter Jackson didn't want to make a Trilogy of the Hobbit. It was his hell, but damnit he tried his best
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    • But it’s cheeper
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    • I realize most of you don't agree but I hated the hobbit book and I loved the movies. I'm glad there's 3
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    • Boomer meme
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    • Reject modernity, embrace tradition
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    • CGI is cheaper.
      Ashigaroo 21 jun
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    • Not really in most of these cases honestly and also, it's still real acting.
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    • Good Practical will always look better than good CGI. The original Star Wars trilogy has aged way better than the prequels have
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    • CGI is only supposed to be full characters when it makes sense, like Gollum for example... the way he’s built is physically impossible for a human to play that part, imagine Andy Serkis being in full makeup and crawling around...it just wouldn’t work.
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    • I mean in terms of realism yes, practically make up made the orcs look much more realistic and scarier/more disturbing which makes an enemy more interesting. But in terms of character the cgi orcs where much more interesting
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    • Sometimes not always
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    • Depends on how much cgi is being used in the movie
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    • Real acting and makeup also cost 600 million dollars
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    • Well done CGI can be amazing
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    • Depends on the movie. Thanos only worked well with good cgi and was great.
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    • Lotr is infinitely better than star wars in every aspect
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    • Have you seen Josh Brolin play Thanos? Gtfo of here.
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    • Idk man, Orcs succ
      rohan0724 24 jun
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    • Cgi doesnt make bad enemies
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    • Disagree
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    • There are no black peoole in Lord of the rings
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    • Nobody ever asks how the green screen man is doing :(
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    • Cgi is just as good, but it's harder to achieve and takes forever
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