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    • That means that if you skip Brock, he could cripple you with his hard rock snake
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    • Imagine getting the games legendary before fighting the gym leaders so you roll up with like 3 balls and no badges so they're like "this'll be easy" then you just wip out Yveltal and then they start repenting for their sins
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    • This is why I think they could make a game that is mostly open world where you can play the gyms in any order using this simple mechanic
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    • There’s a fan game called Pokémon Crystal Clear that actually implements this system. It’s an open-world version of Crystal, so you can fight the gyms in any order, and all trainer battles scale to you.
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    • What? I could have sworn there were games where you couldn’t even progress or move on until you defeated that gym. You couldn’t skip shit. This doesn’t make any sense.
      Jinxzy 10 apr
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    • Just imagine a pokemon game like BOTW. Go anywhere do anything in any order. Find wild pokemon in cool locations
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    • Bruh. Origins was a God damn wonderful mini series that I watched. I really enjoyed the battle red had against Giovanni for the ground badge
      JR_Riddle 11 apr
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    • Pokémon origins was so much better than the regular Pokémon show. The fights were so much better even if they were rushed. Wish they made a full length series
      Nanzival 9 apr
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    • Open world Pokemon game that uses this idea so you can go to whatever gym you want first
      EngiPak 9 apr
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    • I specifically remember not being able to fight all gyms because some would say you gotta get the previous badge before fighting me. Etc.
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    • I thought it was obvious that’s what happens. Because if you start your journey, you don’t go straight to the Pewter City gym, you go to the gym closest to you.
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    • I really want Nintendo to make a Pokémon game where you can choose to start anywhere and you can fight the gyms in any order.
      NiggIer 11 apr
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    • This would be an interesting game mechanism. It would allow the player to choose a path.
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    • This would be a cool game mechanic if we were allowed to skip around gyms and weren’t blocked by a single fence post with the sign “please no trespassing”
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    • When I was little I didn’t know how to play Pokémon so I showed up at the second gym with a level 57 torterra and a level 4 starly
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    • Vincero 9 apr
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    • Now I wish the games would allow us to take on gyms in any order and the Pokemon’s levels would be scaled to the amount of badges you have
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    • I wish there wasn’t an order to going to gym leaders in the games. then different leaders could have different builds. the game would be v different for everybody and I think it would be interesting to see how you played the game out. or it could basically a choose your own story type game.
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    • In black and white 2, Cheren becomes gym leader of the first gym you encounter and he mentions he misses battling with his old Pokémon. Almost like he was given standard Pokémon to battle with
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    • Doss that mean you could crush Brocks level 14 onix with no badge but he actually has like 5 other level 50 onix sitting in a room somewhere that he could use to annihilate you
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    • I wish the Pokemon games had mechanics like this where you could tackle the gyms in any order. I know the rom hack Crystal Clear does this, and it's AMAZING
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    • The rom hack “Pokémon crystal clear” makes the game open world and the gym leaders progress like that, very cool
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    • Now I wanna see what each Leader could do with a full team.
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    • But you have to have a certain amount of badges to go to each gym
      Fit_Geek 9 apr
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    • If anyone ever wanted to experience something like this then go play a game called crystal clear, it does this exact thing and it’s great! Apparently there’s also someone other than red on mount silver so I’m looking forward to seeing that
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    • There should be a game where you can chose the order that you challenge the gyms so they scale
      troubleso 10 apr
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    • Ain't mean shit if I get charazard to level 99
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    • What if they start making Pokémon like a DarkSouls or Breath of the Wild type thing? But rather than bosses you can challenge each gym in any order and depending on level of your Pokémon and badges their Pokémon change and scale
      ChrisAyy 10 apr
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    • I want an open world pokemon game where you can tackle the gyms in any order and their difficulty scales like it did in Origins.
      JCeetra 10 apr
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    • Well, yeah. There are points in the games where you can fight the gym leaders with their actual, personal teams.
      Lime09 9 apr
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    • Theres a ROM hack of Pokémon Crystal called Pokémon Crystal Clear and it's basically open world Pokémon. The gym mechanics work exactly like that, you're allowed to fight the leaders in any ordwe but they get progressively difficult as you get more gym badges.
      salazzle 9 apr
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    • I wish that there was a Pokémon game that let you choose which town you started in and made changes so that you weren’t over or underpowered. This made it so there could be hundreds of different runs of the game
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    • An open world Pokemon would be pretty cool. So would an actually challenging Pokemon
      Xbody 9 apr
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    • What game lets you do gyms out of order and why would you
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    • I wish you could do that in game. That would be dope
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    • It makes sense considering that it’s not likely every single trainer begins in Pallet Town
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    • That must be why an organized crime boss who is also a gym leader lost to a child on numerous occasions
      abn313 9 apr
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    • But you can't use the HMs to progress to the next gym without beating them in order?
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    • It'd be cool to have a game where you choose the gym order but that'd probably be hard AF to make
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    • I always thought about that. Imagine growing up in the town with the last gym, then you gotta haul ass across the region to even start your journey
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    • I would love a Pokémon game where you can pick to face each gym leader in whatever order you want and their Pokémon are different based on your decisions
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    • That’s why all the gym leaders stood up in black and white
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    • I would have fucked Brock up still with my badass Bulbasaur
      densenito 10 apr
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    • Hey, something that should be in the games already! Like seriously holy fuck that kind of thing and level scaling for trainers and gyms would make for a good way to open up the world so it can truly be open world.
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    • Which is why I taught my gyarados thunder and bubble beam and he learned hyper beam like a good little fish
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    • Then why do I have to do them in order?!
      Gehrman 9 apr
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    • That show was really great, wasn't that origins, or was it generations?
      Dota_3 9 apr
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    • imagine starting your journey with the Viridian Gym and Blue pulling out a level 7 Growlithe and a level 5 Pidgey
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    • Didn't they do that in HGSS since the first 7 kanto gyms can be fought in any order?
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    • stnick6 9 apr
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    • But...you always have the badges up until that point..? Like theres no way you could fight sabrina with only one other badge...
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    • There’s an open world rom hack called Pokémon crystal clear. It does exactly this, allowing you to take on gyms in any order and boosting the teams depending how many badges you have
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    • Implement different starting towns in pokemon. Then pick which gyms to tackle in which order.
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    • Weren’t there some gyms in like silver you could skip? And in Ruby and sapphire you could skip brawlys gym and when you come back his shit is still a level 17 machop
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    • Of course, the way the map is set up you typically can't skip them unless you're supposed to.
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    • I think I prefer Brock being a little weak bitch tbh
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    • Brock overdid it in yellow. It was hard with the thunder rat.
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    • Imagine having brock last
      liquiid 9 apr
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    • Use this concept for an open world Pokemon
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    • They should make a game where you actually get to chose which order you fight gyms in
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    • I’d love to see a Pokémon RPG that works like this, we can choose which order to gyms in
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    • That makes so much freaking sense because when you go to Kanto in Gold in Silver, they're all rocking some cool pokemon
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    • This was a very important post
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    • kinda neat they train multiple teams so they can mix and match
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    • What if I came from another region with 8 badges from there. Thy shall clap the rocks ass
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    • They should have a new system in the game where you choose where the game starts and you can take on different gyms depending where you started.
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    • That's why you face more difficult versions of them in gold and silver.
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    • This is why I want a pokemon game that you can choose where to start (of course it'll have a default) and have everything scaled to that. Or at least standard scaling of all pokemon so you can do anything in any order. Make the region massive to compensate for a more limited story
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    • Too bad this wasn’t implemented in the games
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    • I didn’t understand this at first because i thought it was an actual gameplay feature and not a lore explanation/retcon which didn’t make sense because I’m pretty sure you have to do the gyms in a specific order in all the games... they probably should have clarified that better.
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    • This clears up so much
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    • Gym leaders weren’t hard. I had a charizard in gen 1 and wiped the floors with the trainers easy
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    • This seems easily exploitable in a realistic scenario. Is there a way to verify that someone isn’t hiding all their badges to disguise their high skill and sweep gyms by only showing them a couple badges?
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    • Bro I got poke bank and I literally just rolled up with a bunch of legendaries in Pokemon ultra sun
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    • They should implement that into the game, because there are plenty of opportunities to do gyms out of order but they always use the same Pokemon
      RTruce 9 apr
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    • Imagine being a Geodude and your trainer hates you so much he never evolves you and lets you get rekt by trainers for their first badge
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    • The fuck. In the old games you couldn’t play the gyms out of order...
      Dtttt 9 apr
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    • That also explains why when you fight the Pokémon league the second time they’re way higher leveled
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    • Nothing was more exciting than wiping out the whole water gym with only a single lvl 40 Charizard
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    • "No I dont have any badges yet... i traveled a lot tho" ---- *geodude* ---- *i send out geomancy xerneas* "I found this guy tho, thought he was pretty"
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    • *cough* koga and sabrina *cough*
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    • Only if they'd use that mechanic in the game to let you do gyms in any order
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    • I never thought that. I just thought Brock sucked
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    • Pokémon fans who want a challenge, please check out PokeMMO.
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    • Except in the original games you could fight Sabrina very early and she’s just as difficult no matter what badges you have
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    • Makes sense. Not everyone starts in the same town
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    • Is this not normal? Why is this such a surprise, I feel like I’m missing something. Would you expect them to all just be the same fucking difficulty or something
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    • I don't remember being able to skip gyms, the old guy is just standing there,I haven't played since yellow tho
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    • I mean yeah we know they have multiple Pokemon as seen in Platinum, HGSS, and BW2. However they don't scale to you if you skip them in game because game design
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    • Origins is better than the main series
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    • Daddy gotta feature
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    • The should let you wait and battle them in any order you want
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    • Imagine training a pokemon to like level 12 then just stunting it’s growth forever so it can be a fair opponent for new trainers
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    • This was in the Platinum battle frontier, where they all had super high-level pokemon that they never used
      iGatchu 9 apr
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    • So what’s the point if you need badges to get to most other gyms
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    • Cool
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    • Origins was honestly really good, it game more detail to the world
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    • Then explain to me why Roxanne whooped my ass 4+ times straight
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