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23/07/2019 e I fundamentally believe "i suffered so you should too" is a
shitty way to live. It's morally bad, politically bad, just bad
for your heart
kill santa become santa
Replying to @Wolven
Something
I like to call the Boomer Trolley Problem:
Would it be fair to the people the
trolley has already killed to divert
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    • I mean absolutely no disrespect when I say this, it's just something I noticed. A lot of people in the older generations don't really realize that the younger generations simply don't need to struggle as hard as they did, and because of that, they think they're lazy
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    • My grandpa and my uncles would take turns beating my dad and starving him every day as a kid. He was raised in an extremely abusive family, he has a shit ton of stress related illnesses and anger issues. But for me, his daughter, the man dealt with all that trauma and became the sweetest father ever
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    • Your suffering should make you not want anyone else to suffer.
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    • It's less of a "suffer like I suffered" and more akin to "I've survived worse, you'll do fine" mentality
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    • This reminded me my stepmom used to punish us a lot like make us run, move the log pile across the yard then move it back by hand in a certain number of hours just to be a bitch and my dad knew the whole time about this and didn't do anything and said it was ok in his eyes because it was helping(1/2
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    • Did you mean: bullying
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    • Weak mean create hard times
      rudodo 8 jul
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    • Life is suffering. Learn from it.
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    • This reminds me of the opposite party
      JPL_Bagus 10 jul
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    • And just because some people have it worse doesnt mean your punishment, abuse, or experiences are invalid
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    • I’m bout to bring up slavery in a big way
      HongDong 10 jul
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    • If I work my ass off to graduate college debt free and then five years later the government wipes out the student debt of the kids who partied the whole time, I’d justifiably be pissed
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    • I see this discussion come up a lot in the free college debate, and that would make this example a terrible one. The argument isn’t “I suffered so you can too” as much as “I paid for mine, why do I have to pay for yours too?”
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    • Libtards then transition this mentality over the top into "if I have any difficulty in life then that's morally wrong- so the world should revolve around me"
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    • my grandparents will say stuff like "minimum wage is supposed to be for high school students, not to live off of. get a better job" and then brag about how bAcK iN mY dAy "we lived off of minimum wage no problem" and it's like okay ??? which one is it then
      Coccyx 10 jul
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    • The whole point of things improving is for kids to grow up better than their parents did but once it starts happening they become jealous and ruin their kids life
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    • This is like a woman taking her kids to the same Sunday school that she was abused at as a child. With the same person who abused her. And saying “I turned out fine”
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    • Okay, but that doesn't make Helicopter or snowplow parenting good. Suffering is a part of life, obstacles are a part of life. If you never learn to struggle and that struggle is a part of life you get children who grow up into a world they aren't prepared for. The world is cruel, no matter
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    • Everyone will struggle, so purposely causing them to struggle with something that will ultimately damage them is pointless. I'm saying like my parents excusing their own laziness and allowing me to be sexually abused to "build character". Everyone needs to learn, but this is often an excuse.
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    • Hot take, not all boomers are bad
      benjix66 10 jul
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    • "You suffer with me, Dah-Veed."
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    • WhEn i wAs YoUr aGE (insert negative comment that only ends up making you hate old people)
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    • Hahahahahahahahahaha he said boomer
      lnigga 10 jul
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    • Yeah but saying people deserve privilege for free is also morally and governmentally bad. It’s not about not suffering like people before them.
      Jerando 10 jul
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    • Hey but keep beating you kids cause your parents beat you.
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    • Y'all remember when Gen Z started the tide pod eating trend?
      _MOTHRA_ 10 jul
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    • But see now days people talk about wanting equality but nobody wants equality unless it benefits them you cant pick and choose. And everyone has the mentality that if they can do it then why cant I. Just worry about your d**n self and quit looking at what everyone else can get away with then you'll
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    • Curiously this is also how blm views things. “Since we went through it white people should too”.
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    • Same argument applies to BLM
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    • Older generations think that dealing with stuff like paying for college is easy because they went back before the prices were inflated so much. It’s merely a disconnect in information
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    • No. Just no. This is yet another example of mischaracterizing people's beliefs. The idea isnt that you should have to suffer, the idea is that suffering unimportant things builds character. If a person never suffers, then they will break down when faced with real problems. It's not about...
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    • Bitch if I’m gonna die you best believe I’m not doing it alone
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    • I was thinking more like millennials in BLM
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    • Right but SOME struggle builds character. Doesn’t mean we should keep leaving the poor to their devices, but if you’re rich and you let your kids fuck around all day and have them never work a day in their lives, you’re setting them up to be inept spirits of vice and unhappiness.
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    • Without struggle or pain life loses meaning because there is nothing better to strive for, although I myself do believe we should do what’s best for us all I don’t think we should eliminate all suffering because I’ve seen how pathetic the weak can be
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    • Good people want to prevent others from that same pain
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    • It's sad how often people need to rationalize their trauma and claim that it makes you tough so they perpetuate it when real strength comes from patience and control. The strongest people aren't those who hurt others esp their kids, they're weak and create trauma.
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    • I know there are some Boomers who say you should suffer because I suffered but I think a good portion of what other boomers are trying to say is you should suffer because it builds character.
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    • It should be I suffered so you don’t have to
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    • "Stopping/diverting the trolley to save people is unfair to the people the trolley has already ran over"
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    • You guys may not realize it or may deny it but a lot of you have good hearts and truly good intentions. You may not believe in it but that's jesus in you. That's good. A lot of people are just too fucking stupid to realize that innate goodness isnt dependent on whether we have the same opinion, but
      eddie651 10 jul
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    • I feel like the second post is proving the point of the first.
      Numbuh_2 10 jul
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    • Bad things make good things have more worth. If everything is good, it becomes meaningless
      YesJim 10 jul
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    • Like your friend getting cheated on and then fucking your girlfriend. Ask mr how I know.
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    • Military in general
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    • They’re dead so they wouldn’t know
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    • It’s more like, if I can pay for college and succeed, so can you.
      pooppops 10 jul
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    • Unpopular opinion: Can we not act like they are putting stress on others for nothing? All these kids that grew up with no stress and no one to teach them that the world sucks dont know how to fix something in their house when it gets broken, how to do taxes, how to raise a child. The making you (1/2
      akeda 10 jul
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    • Challenges and adversity are necessary then theres unnecessary suffering. Working out hard and being sore and out of breath leds growth. If the struggle doesnt led to growth but a broken individual/society its not a good thing.
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    • If you have that mentality, you shouldn’t have kids. You should want better for your children. This goes for any situation, though. Even if you suffered you should try to make things better for those who will follow after you.
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    • The one thing a lot of people dont understand until youve been through it is you have to have obstacles in your life to learn your own worth and ability. You have to have the shit to appreciate the beautiful. If every day is sunny it means nothing. You need the storms
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    • I hate that too. "When I was your age, I was in 'Nam fighting commies." What do you want me to do? Start a war and fight in it just so you can be pleased with me?
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    • You shouldn't have to suffer as much as you need to learn to work hard and fend for yourself. Just because your parents can hang you out to dry doesn't mean they should. They can kick you out of the nest to see if you can fly but should be there if you fall or need help
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    • What people dont get is suffering is only an ingredient in character building. You cant make a chocolate strawberry cake with 2 eggs and nothing else.
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    • People who actually suffered learn from it and teach others how to avoid it otherwise they didn't actually suffer
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    • I believe children should be taught that hard work pays off and a lot of the sweetest shit in life is shit you have to work for. However doesn't mean you should thrust hard labor on them every chance you get, that'll just rob the fun from their life and make them despise you
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    • So you don’t believe in prison
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    • ive grown up in an abusive family, my mother would vent off her anger from work on us, to a point where something small we did wrong, shed make us not eat for an entire day. my dad was never home always work, did drugs and drank alot. he wouldnt beat us, but hed never give is any sense of acknowledg
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    • Remember kids, you can choose to either turn your suffering into bitterness or into kindness.
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    • When my ex started treating me like shit for no reason I left her then about a year later I met someone she had dated after we broke up, it was a girl, I had no idea my ex was bi. Anyway, apparently my ex treated this girl like shit towards the end for no reason too so we were gonna tell her new bf-
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    • what a dumb analogy
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    • At this point just run us all over and end this nightmare
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    • Doesn’t matter they’re dead
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    • Some things you should suffer from to build character
      CRS6132 10 jul
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    • Blacks suffered so whites must now suffer
      aright 10 jul
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    • If you never suffer you will end up being a bitch.
      bigfooted 10 jul
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    • So basically black people
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    • This reminds me of the time I was talking to a coworker friend about college deat and how he said that his mother hated the idea of forgiving it because "its unfair for those how have paid it off already." And when I heard that I just said "that's like saying it would be wrong to make a cure (1/2)
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    • Waaaah I don't want to learn lessons from adversity
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    • Everyone else should happily pay for my college so that I don't have to suffer.
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    • Forgiving people is much more toxic, in big circumstances. If someone hits your car, don’t run them over. But if someone, like American Politicians, is abusing their power over the people below them, you would solve nothing with “Oh I forgive you.” Being a dick has repercussions, enforce them.
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    • Do you idiots not get it's about you little fuckers being weak pussies who can't handle real life and whining about responsibility and not about suffering. The fact you think it's about suffering proves how utterly fucking retarded you are.
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    • My ancestors suffered slavery, so you need to suffer, too.
      Imall469 10 jul
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    • Aww did you get treated bad when you were a kid? Fuckin grow up ya bunch of soft skinned pussies. It’s called getting the fuck over it, something it seems no one can do these days. I was born in the wrong era for sure.
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    • My dad was circumcised so he made all his boys get circumcised.
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    • Lean back too far and the chair will fall over.
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    • Welcome to the military
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    • Life is suffering. I've suffered through it and it's your turn
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    • You should make the people who made you suffer also suffer
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    • Its not I struggle now you struggle, its the fact that shifty situations breed mentally tough people but older generations couldn't articulate or just didn't care to and now everyone thinks its them being assholes but in reality its to mentally prepare you to be an adult now we have a generation
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    • Dumb bitches
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    • My suffering has made strong and independent but it's also made cold in the way I look down on the weak i dont step in to help i just watch thinking pathetic why are you letting this happen it make me sick
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    • The people who are already dead dont have anything to worry about, and making decisions based on what you think is fair to the dead is foolish. Also stop burying people and wasting land
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    • Depends on the context. If someone does something to personally make me suffer you can bet your ass I'm making their life miserable if I can. But other than that it's kinda dumb.
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    • Yet people in the young generation are protesting for systematic oppression that isn’t there
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    • Sheltered millennials angry they don’t live in a utopia
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    • Not trying to argue with anyone, but while we naturally try to avoid it at all costs, the lessons we learn from suffering and hard times are worth the struggle in the first place. IMO living life like you should never have any sort of negative moments isn’t much of a life at all.
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    • Say it louder for military leadership
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    • "This world shall know pain."
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    • Boomer Trolley? You mean LIBERAL Trolley. The only way to equality is making the white man suffer as the black or female, depending on if you’re racist or feminist.
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    • This reminds me of the political party that I am not in
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    • “You’re dead you don’t matter anymore!” -Louis C.K.
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    • Equal suffering not equal treatment
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    • Its the same thing with BLM
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    • Genuinely had a terrible experience due to negligence of 1 man and the apathy of many, I have that you should suffer mentality but I recognize its wrong due to a higher powerx
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    • Growth through suffering. To an extent of course
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    • That quote is why we have cops
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    • The less people die the better
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