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Even without Alien X, Ben stands a good
chance against Goku.
As Ben 10 fans
already know, Omnitrix can scan for alien
DNA, and since Goku is a Saiyan, i.e. not
human, then Ben can transform into a
Saiyan as well.
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    • Dragon ball niggas will ruin any talk about a fight between two characters on some “cAn thEy beAt GOkU?”
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    • 1. The omnitrix gives ben full knowledge of the species and how to use every ability. 2. The Omnitrix turns Ben in to the genetically perfect specimen 3. Because of this ben would immediately be able to transform in to SSB or probably even Ultra instinct.
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    • Um if Ben meets Berrus then it’s universe game over right there
      Xylnn 10 jul
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    • Even if so the nigga doesn't know how to use God energy or transform into super sayian he could be peak sayian but there can only be one by dragon ball lore and that's Broly.
      artoriasd 10 jul
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    • Ok let clear uo a few thing. If Ben transformed into a saiyan via the watch he would be at peak specimen of the species. That said it would have limitations. He would not by default be able to manipulate Ki, fly, or control the Oozaru transformation as these are not natural abilities. ((P1))
      EyesOnIy 10 jul
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    • Can Ben ten handle the stamina capabilities
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    • Mfs will literally compare some shit like the goddamn ant bully to goku, just to prove that goku can win
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    • He could definitely win with alien x if he can control it. If he scanned goku he would only turn into saiyan at peak physical form. He wouldn’t have the same martial arts training, ki control, kaioken, ultra instinct, god ki. Those abilities aren’t linked to saiyan dna. He wouldn’t even be able (1)
      TheKingMS 11 jul
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    • But if so, Ben wouldn't have the ability to go Kaioken or Ultra instinct on just scanning Goku(i know Goku doesn't know how to willing do Ultra instinct but it could be activated) but Kaioken alone could tip the balance in goku's favor. Also Ben gets the species abilities not the persons so(part 1)
      Ethro16 10 jul
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    • Okay but Saiyan's aren't like Kryptonians, Goku isn't strong because he is a Saiyan, he was born with a power level of 2 and would be assumed to be an average non warrior sayian, Gokus strong cause he trained for it his whole life
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    • I mean alien X also restarted a universe after it was fucking ERASED
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    • The watch literally will not let him die. The man literally fell into the Big Bang, survived, absorbed its power, and fucked the villain up. He’s created and recreated universes, altered reality, summoned black hole at will. He’s omnitpotent essentially. He exists outside the multiverse
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    • Fkin love dbz fans. Literal degenerates that beleive no one can beat goku even when they someones has uncapped power ie saitama
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    • Ben can turn into a fucking god and can erase shit from existence, plus the omnitrix can react faster than the big bang
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    • Let's GOOOO let me at him
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    • Alright let’s make two things clear one we are talking about the omnimatrix not the ultimatrix or whatever and 2nd this is saying without alien x.just two reminders for everyone arguing in the comments
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    • This already happened with black, and the outcome is the same. You may have his body and all the saiyan genes, but you haven't fought the lifetime of battles that built it. Doesnt matter if its a "perfect specimen" of a saiyan, Vegetas entire arc was getting over the idea that genes arent strength
      BigShot 11 jul
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    • All you gotta do is fuckin sho oot Ben when he isn't looking and steal his kidd watch from McDonald's smh
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    • Okay, so here's thing people are leaving out. There are many abilities that Goku can do that isn't inherently Saiyan based, such as flying and using Ki. So if it was Goku vs Ben as a Saiyan, Ben would likely get wiped the first time. However, Goku being the good sport he is, would say- 1/2
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    • Are y'all forgetting the Ultimatrix which can transform his aliens into their "ultimate" forms
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    • Everybody chill we all know Ben would get his ass handed to him , just cuz your a saiyan doesn’t mean your goku. Can I get a hallelujah?
      everfresh 11 jul
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    • Lol it's so funny to see butt hurt anime fans when they learn a Saturday morning cartoon character would whoop their characters ass into next week😂
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    • This is like the retarded Saitama shit. Who fucking cares. Or Kirby. Kirby can eat anything and win. Whatever. Saitama punches things 1 time and they die. Goku is the strongest in his universe. Saitama in his. Kirby probably is above god level so we dont talk about that.
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    • Here come the Gokutards who think Goku is the strongest character in all of fiction
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    • Ben doesnt have any substantial martial arts training, even if he can become goku it doesnt mean goku would lose
      VspTylore 10 jul
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    • There’s already an instance where someone stole a saiyan body, it’s called goku black. And the main point of that fight was that even if you take a saiyans body you didn’t train for it or was born with it, even earn it for that matter so the strength can never be fully used
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    • Alien x is literally (G)od level, he could kick the universes ass
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    • Moral of the story is, Ben 10 is busted
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    • Goku is a God
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    • Ben has alien x it’s game over sorry
      KBGN 10 jul
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    • Valyrison 10 jul
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    • The thing that a lot of people saying that Goku would win aren’t realizing is Ben has the Ultimatrix. The Ultimatrix allows Ben to turn into a version of that specific alien species that survived the harshest possible environment and evolve as if it did. Thus he could become the most powerful 1/2
      psychrox 11 jul
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    • Ben could go straight SS 3 right off the bat maybe even 4 cause it transforms him into the genetic best of a species
      kodabber 11 jul
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    • As a DBZ fan, stfu DBZ fans. Goku is not the strongest, not even with Ultra Instinct. Superman and Ben 10 can kick his ass.
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    • Anyone else feel like watching Ben 10 again
      Denadar 11 jul
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    • Turning into a saiyan against Goku is the same as turning into an asguardian against thor, you haven’t evened the playing field in the slightest Goku surpassed every normal Saiyan in history without even realizing it, only a tiny portion of his strength comes from genetics the rest is from training
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    • Also the Omnitrix literally rejects death
      Lavie 10 jul
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    • Bro ben 10 would obliterate anyone from dbz. His Alien x alone could destroy not only our galaxy but the entire fucking time line itself.
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    • Captain ginyu stole goku’s body and got clapped cuz he didn’t know how to use it. Ben 10 gets clapped cmon guys
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    • The fact that he can become a Sayan doesn't mean anything, he once lost as four arms against an alien of the same species. Goku relies on various techniques that aren't natural physical adaptations. Ben learning how to do the kaioken technique would be equivalent to him learning a language
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    • You guys are all talking "kaioken" "super saiyan" "no way Ben could learn that" like goku wouldn't teach him everything to get the hardest fight possible.
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    • DBZ fans really trying to make an argument with a 10 year olds cartoon character that is literally unk!llable, this fandom is dumber than I thought 🤡
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    • Shednov 11 jul
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    • even if Ben ten transformed into the perfect sayian Goku would win on the fact that he has a way Superior fighting style and he would be able to adapt to Ben 10 fighting Shadow and figure out a way to beat it
      boobslapz 11 jul
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    • I always wondered why the Omnitrix couldn't scan humans since they would be aliens to the creator.
      _Axel_Lea 11 jul
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    • Spyer3264 11 jul
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    • Simply being a saiyan doesn't make you as strong as Goku. Just ask Vegeta
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    • Becoming a saiyan doesn't make him powerful, goku trained all his life to achieve the power he has, krillin would beat Ben ten, even Yamcha would beat ben ten
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    • But ben doesn’t know any of Goku’s moves, transformations, or fighting styles. It’s like when captain Ginyu took over Goku’s body
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    • Y’all sleeping on my boy four arms
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    • Ugh I love dbz as much as it's fan base and I love goku but he can't beat Ben 10 I'll explain. Ben has a bunch of aliens that he could use to beat goku (but if he goes alien x he already wins) Ben can go echo and clone himself into ben and then he could have like 100 Ben's all fighting. 1/2
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    • Tbh... ive never even considered that was a thing and now im glad i do.
      Kappaii 10 jul
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    • Ok you fucks, time for you to learn something about Goku. He has an extensive arsenal of abilities and fighting styles. That is what makes him strong. Its not the monkey in him that makes him strong. Ben would transform into Goku and basically be human. He does not know energy control either
      Ozone1238 12 jul
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    • You can also take into account his ultimate alien. Canonically the ultimate alien form is a presented simulated alien that is put under horribley threatening conditions over millions of years, the result being a stronger and more powerful evolution of the alien. Imagine the power an ultimate saiyan1
      Safananza 12 jul
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    • ... yeah but his ability is linked very much with his ambition on getting better than he already is his mind is unlike most so Ben may get the saiyan genes but he would miss out on supersaiyan without practice
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    • Huge difference between becoming a Saiyan and going Super Saiyan lmfao. SSB Goku is a universe buster. That’s not even with Kaioken or Ultra Instinct thrown on
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    • Hmmm... that then becomes an argument of whether or not Saiyan abilities are learned either through experience, or if they are dormant in the scannable DNA.
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    • If Ben became an ultimate saiyan via ultimatrix he could probably be on par with a super Saiyan god+. Since the ultimatrix is takes the current alien and evolves them over ~10 million years in the harshest environment possible to produce an apex. Any thoughts on this theory ?
      CloudDust 11 jul
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    • Except that Ben has next to nothing fighting skiII as the legendary goku who even as a child would mash Ben's insides out.
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    • Theres a really good YouTube video explaining this including all of the many abilities the various aliens give him. Its really worth a watch. (Get it?) Also, yeah... even without the DNA scan function Alien X would annihilate anyone
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    • Ben ten can only transform for 10 mins and he can only get the species abilities not the person if he became a saiyan he wouldn’t even know how to do techniques because u have to learn it
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    • What drives Dragon Ball fans absolutely nuts is someone even considering the possibility that Goku isn’t the strongest character ever conceived.
      MrMister 11 jul
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    • If anyone wants to know how Ben 10 beats Goku dm me
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    • I mean it depends, if goku knows what the watch actually is he'd probably kiIl him before he can press it
      blue_too 10 jul
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    • Didn’t goku only become strong because because he trained? He started off with a power level of 2, which was lower than the farmer from the first dbz episode. Alien x would win because of stupid hack abilities and stuff, but without that I don’t see Ben winning, Goku can likely destroy a multiverse.
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    • Ultimate Saiyan!
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    • yo Ben can transform into Green Jiren😱
      HiChew 11 jul
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    • Ben 10 has an alien that’s basically a god on a level like the Omni king. The 2 halves of alien X are even in a endless debate to allow been to control alien X fully
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    • A lot of you really show you dont know anything about Ben 10 and how the omnitrix functions
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    • Even if ben went super saiyan and all that, I doubt he would be able to use ultra instinct, so assuming goku could use ot again, he would probably win.
      dospayne 10 jul
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    • but can they beat Made in Heaven?
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    • Yeah but he still won’t last a second because goku will fucking turn into a god
      icywing 10 jul
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    • Yeah but he doesn’t know super saiyan, he doesn’t know kaioken or any of the techniques, at best he might be able to turn into Oozaru which is x10 at best, and even then he doesn’t become a copy of Goku. He only becomes that of a race, so he could be a low class warrior with a power level of 200.
      jk10296 10 jul
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    • Im tryna fuck ben 10
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    • True if we talk best case he would have a version with completely unlocked potential as well
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    • I love seeing butthurt and triggered people claim that other people are being butthurt or triggered
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    • Tbh, I’d watch that fight
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    • Guys, you are missing one crusial point. He needs to have scanned them first. Thats at least a couple of seconds for any Sayian to turn his head into red mist.
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    • Most omnitrix models came worh each species respective instints to understoand how they work. However scanning a new species that wasent scanned prior takes up time, during this time hes stuck as a human. He can unlock it assuming asmuith scanned it amd locked it. Physical changes carry over...
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    • Timmy Turner could beat all of them.
      Gooseboy 11 jul
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    • What if Ben can absorb the sayan race's DNA. Ben could be goku
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    • Couldn't it scan a human because they would technically be considered an alien for the guy who made the Omnitrix?
      REDA_CTED 11 jul
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    • Yeah but just because he can become super saiyen doesn't mean he can know martial arts like goku or reach ultra instinct like goku or just flat out go super saiyen. Tbh tho goku would let him live to train another day of course but tbh that would make them good friends.
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    • Guys everybody is freaking the fuck out because he cannot actually become a super saiyan, however, he could just scan Zeno and whoop that little saiyans’s ass shut. Case closed.
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    • i know it says excluding Alien X, but like lets be real ok. for anyone who doesnt know Alien X is a species that can alter reality itself, but it is governed by 3 personalities and all 3 must agree before anything is done, long story short, the other 2 personalities just like, gave Ben InfinitePower
      ItsHesus 12 jul
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    • I comment my ball to likes the get going
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    • People keep saying Ben couldn’t replicate god ki, to which I say he can, based on DBZ’s own rules. Cell had all of the ki of the beings he stole dna from.
      Bruh746 11 jul
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    • Lol these people are using no limit fallacies and wank to Ben 10. Ben can only win with alien x.
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    • But if he turns into a saying He will still get the absolute crap beat out of him because goku is to powerful
      _HAHAHA_ 11 jul
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    • But he would only be like a low-level by default based on goku’s DNA. He would be strong but if I’m not mistaken there’s no guarantee that Ben could access super saiyan levels or ultra instinct as it’s more of a martial artist thing.
      YourGuyCy 10 jul
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    • He’d turn into the best version of the species as well so he’d beat Goku.
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    • This is like saying an exact clone of goku wouldn't be able to beat goku, because that's what it would be, except ben can fill any weaknesses in that goku might have
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    • Alien X is universal. Peak saiyan without training is Vegeta in his first appearance. Goku is easily multiversal as he almost destroyed the universe in his God form, which he absorbed into his base form.
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    • This is where Ultra Instinct would kick in however. He may have access to gokus Saiyan powers, but UI isn’t a Saiyan thing. It’s then Goku breaks his limits and gets God of Destruction abilities in a way.
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    • Does anyone have that “I’ll show you why they call me Ben 10” meme?
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    • As a Dragonball fan, I can say that Dragonball fans are the absolute worst people to have these kinds of arguments with.
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    • But even then that’s a “if”, y’all other dragon ball fans gonna understand yes goku is fucking op barely anyone can beat him, but somewhere someone in a show can beat him rn that someone is alien x
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    • Dragon ball z fans are literally the worse fandom. Oh your shitty stupidly written overpowered main character can beat x y and z? Yeah no shit shut the fuck up
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